Today, we are joined by professors Cherian George and Donald Low, to talk about their bestselling book, “PAP v PAP: The Party’s struggle to adapt to a changing Singapore” (purchase the book via Epigram bookstore or the audiobook via Storytel). We discussed the balance between elite governance and democratic deliberation, the phenomena of elite reproduction and overproduction, and how the book can be a starting point for political and policy conversations in Singapore.